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Project Status Update

March 27th, 2008 at 11:18 am (3 months, 4 weeks ago) by Sheila Mooney under Chandler Project

So there are lots of releases to talk about in this week’s update.

We rolled out a 0.7.5 version of the Desktop last week which featured a wide variety of bug fixes and UI changes as well as some work to support the security fixes in the new Cosmo release. We did a quick update 0.7.5.1 yesterday to address 2 major bugs that were blocking users from getting started with Chandler. More details are available in the release notes.

0.7.5 Release Notes
0.7.5.1 Release Notes

Cosmo 0.13 was released which includes a major sharing security fix. Upgrading to Cosmo 0.13 requires users to upgrade to Chandler 0.7.5 or 0.7.5.1 to take advantage of the new features so we encourage all Desktop users to upgrade. Randy is moving on to the Cosmo 1.0 bugs in the work queue.

We are progressing well on the Dojo 1.0 work and have another IRC QA session scheduled for 1:00pm today. As always we welcome any testing help from the community. Jeffrey has been away but we will resume work to deploy the Quick Entry Widget when he returns.

Philip is continuing on with his architecture work and working on a proof of concept, “Hello World” for Trellis and SQLAlchemy linkup. He is working on fixing some snags introduced by resent SQLAlchemy changes.

On the marketing front we continue to evangelize Chandler, extract user testimonials, publish blog posts and will be deploying a new landing page and quick start guide soon.


Chandler Desktop 0.7.5 released

March 20th, 2008 at 11:01 am (4 months ago) by Jared Rhine under Chandler Product News, Chandler Project

The Chandler Project is pleased to announce the 0.7.5 release of Chandler Desktop!

The Chandler Project is an open source, standards-based information manager designed for personal use and small group collaboration.

The 0.7.5 release of Chandler Desktop simplifies the Chandler UI by changing elements confusing to new users. In particular, multiple toolbar buttons were removed, “tasks” were replaced with “starred items”, the “triage” button was renamed to “clean up”, and the items created when first starting have been made more useful. The sidebar list of collections can now be reordered by dragging them in-place. A variety of build/packaging and platform-specific bugs have also been fixed.

Additionally, Chandler Desktop has updated its sharing protocol to match that of Chandler Server (Cosmo) 0.13. Previously, a user could republish items that had been shared to them read-only to obtain read-write permission to those items. See here and here for more information. People using versions of Chandler Desktop prior to 0.7.5 will not be able to republish items to recent versions of Chandler Server including Chandler Hub.

A list of known issues in this release is at the bottom of this announcement.

Chandler Desktop 0.7.5 is available for download for Windows, Mac, and Linux at:

http://chandlerproject.org/download

Additional information is available from the Chandler Project homepage.

The bugs fixed in this release include:

  • #5058 Add the ability to reorder collections in the sidebar
  • #7024 Improvements to divider in the sidebar
  • #10785 Tab key press doesn’t end lozenge edit on Ubuntu
  • #10997 Bad dependency on tools/ dir
  • #11013 Plug read-only security hole
  • #11238 Reminder popup prevents to use Chandler
  • #11239 Using delete via context menu deletes wrong user item - no indication to user
  • #11290 Rename Triage button
  • #11429 Re-organize the File menu
  • #11676 Added a new collection on the hub & Chandler desktop hung
  • #11678 make the links in the ‘Tip of the day’ clickable
  • #11684 Add “Show Tips” to the Help menu
  • #11689 Chandler crashed on linux with X window System error
  • #11705 Need to be able to tell if a reflist attribute has been deleted or not
  • #11712 Full Name not showing up for sender in email I receive in Apple Mail
  • #11729 Generate items from dialog
  • #11770 Strip down UI
  • #11771 Change task stamp to star stamp
  • #11772 Fill-in OOTB items
  • #11783 Traceback when making ‘Future’ edit on recurring series
  • #11814 Change hint text in quick entry bar to: Create a new note
  • #11819 Leopard Desktop releases show “Python” not “Chandler” for name
  • #11823 Couldn’t migrate 0.7.3 to 0.7.4 on MacOSX
  • #11830 SAST timezone missing
  • #11831 German translation’s key-bindings (at least on Mac) are bad
  • #11836 Change Copy URLs to Clipboard text to…
  • #11838 Language Switch doesn’t work
  • #11880 Disallow adding read-only items to other collections
  • #11884 Better sharing error messaging
  • #11887 Exception changing visible hours in multiweek (month) view
  • #11900 Change View>>Triage to View>>Clean up
  • #11903 Traceback after upgrading
  • #11911 D-click to mark item as 2-triage statuses away
  • #11914 Drags to read-only collections succeed
  • #11919 Can’t cancel publishing a collection

There are five known issues with this release we’d like to highlight:

  • #11878 Can’t put items you received via Email on the Server
  • #11921 Read-write access should override read-only access
  • #11946 Crash manipulating particular event in Chandler
  • #11947 No highlight state in month view
  • #11948 sidebar update oddity when creating a collection

This list of known issues includes an application crash that previously didn’t happen when editing an event in a collection that’s not currently selected. All these issues involved sophisticated sharing scenarios (multiple collections with some read-only and others read-write, and sharing items via email) or are UI oddities with simple workarounds.

Thanks for your interest in Chandler Desktop!


Chandler Project Status

March 17th, 2008 at 8:31 pm (4 months, 1 week ago) by Sheila Mooney under Chandler Project

Here’s an update on the current activities…

We are getting ready to move forward with several new releases.

On the desktop side, Chandler 0.7.5 should be released sometime in the next several days. Last week we held a collaborative QA session on IRC. You can download the latest checkpoint for a preview of all the fixes.

On the server side we will be doing two releases this month. The first one, 0.13, contains a major fix to plug a security hole along with a number of other smaller bug fixes. We have been testing this branch and will likely have the release out later this week. You can get the latest release candidate here and the test spec is available on the wiki.

This will be followed by an infrastructure release, 0.14, where the current UI has been ported to Dojo 1.0. We held a test session on IRC last Thursday and have another planned for tomorrow at 1:00pm. We have been testing against this instance and Travis’ test spec is also on the wiki. We always welcome any additional help testing.

We continue to make good progress on the Quick Entry widget. Jeffrey has been working on a few remaining IE bugs. Brian has sent an architecture proposal to the list for the Notifications widget. Philip Eby recently posted on the list soliciting feedback on his Trellis work.

On the marketing and design side, we have been working on a new landing page which we will deploy and try out on users soon. We will continue to iterate on the new design to refine our product message. This is one of many marketing activities we will be tackling in the coming weeks.


Four Month Plan: Chandler 1.0

March 10th, 2008 at 10:23 pm (4 months, 2 weeks ago) by Katie Capps Parlante under Chandler Hub Service, Chandler Project, Chandler Server Development

A month ago, I wrote about next steps for the Chandler project after our reformulation as a smaller, more agile team. Since then we’ve made the plan concrete — here is a summary of the goals and a few pointers to specific work queues.

Mimi described the goals nicely in a post to the chandler-dev list

1. Get Chandler in front of more users, aka: Make it more viral.

Product changes:

  • Item sharing: a new workflow to use the web to collaborate on just one item. We’ll “widgetize” this functionality, making it available in other contexts like iGoogle or on an iPhone.
  • Improve web UI “ticket views” so subscribers can more easily subscribe to collections in applications they already use
  • Improve existing use cases for iCal and Lightning users (sharing with Chandler users, using Chandler Hub)

Marketing and Evangelism:

  • Improve our pitch, improve our web presence
  • Better demos, user testimonials
  • Reach out and talk to people about Chandler in other spaces

2. Make Chandler more appealing to new users, aka: Reduce barriers to getting started.

Reduce the number of new concepts users need to understand in order to get started:

  • Pare down UI, de-emphasizing email UI
  • De-emphasize notion of “Item” and replace with “Note”
  • Remove explicit “Task” and introduce “Star”

Improve the web UI experience for people not using Chandler desktop (iCal/Lightning or Hub only users):

  • smooth out sharing workflows
  • auto-triaging CalDAV events
  • make Notes field in detail view more usable

3. Make it easier for new users to ramp up to using Chandler every day.

Add two additional “widgets” with features that allow people to use Chandler in other contexts:

  • Notifications: Users can send themselves or others notifications about changes to shared collections. This also counts towards the first goal, as it allows current users to share some Chandler functionality with other people. Notifications will be available first as an iGoogle widget (and potentially other similar contexts), and eventually also as email, SMS, or IM messages.
  • Quick Entry: this widget will allow users to enter items into Chandler Hub from other contexts: iGoogle, iPhone, OSX and Vista widgets. Eventually we’d like to allow similar functionality through forwarding email to a particular address.

Work Queues and Releases

The work described above has been broken down into tasks and bugs and is prioritized into two work queues, one for the desktop and one for all of the web related work. Grant is marching down the desktop queue while everyone else tackles the web queue. We meet daily to cover progress, adjusting the work queues if priorities change. (Mockups and specs for the new widgets and web UI changes are also linked from the web queue.)

The plan is to do a desktop release and a server release once a month. Usually these won’t need to be coordinated — though in this next round we have a security bug that involves both.

Phillip’s work on the desktop rearchitecture is the exception. He’s posting about his work over on the PEAK list. We may move Chandler desktop over to this architecture after the 1.0 — we’re waiting to see how this plays out to make the call on that.

Milestones

We plan on hitting a few major milestones by early summer — these are the big goals we are shooting for:

  • Web Widgets: Quick Entry, Notifications, Item Sharing — we’d like to have these deployed in a few contexts.
  • Desktop 1.0: We’re pretty close to releasing a 1.0 desktop. Prior to launching this we want to make sure some web UI improvements go up on the Hub, and make some changes to the website.
  • Server 1.0: With some security fixes, authentication work, and a few other items (e.g. the ability to disable account signups), we should be able to release a 1.0 for people who want to run their own server.

We don’t need to coordinate all of these milestones — we may hit some more quickly than others.

Changes to the Plan

We were thinking we’d put minimal investment into the existing web ui, figuring that we’d do a better job on the web use cases we want to hit with the web widgets. Once started thinking through both the web and desktop use cases, we realized we really do need to make some investment in the existing web ui. We’ve added web ui bugs to the web queue.

We decided to put off working on a Thunderbird plugin, for two reasons: (1) after doing a bit of research it was starting to look like a more sizable investment than we initially thought and (2) we worried about having too many projects.


Project Status Update

March 7th, 2008 at 3:52 pm (4 months, 2 weeks ago) by Sheila Mooney under Chandler Project

It’s time for another update on our recent activities.

On the desktop side we have been working away at the desktop work queue and plan to release 0.7.5 next week. We will send out a detailed list of new features and bugs fixed with the release notes. Highlights will include some printing support, new localizations and some modifications to simplify the UI. Philip continues to make progress on the rearchitecture work, specifically the repository replacement.

On the Cosmo side, we have been testing out Randy’s fixes for the security bugs with an IRC QA session yesterday that uncovered a couple of issues. We will be releasing Cosmo 0.13 with these security fixes in the next week or so. There was some work done on the desktop side to support the security fixes but both releases can be independent.

Travis is continuing to finish up the port to Dojo 1.0 and has been working on a test spec. We are targeting next week to start testing this branch. We are making good progress on the quick entry widget. Most of the polish tweaks have been done and Jeffrey has been testing and fixing some IE bugs. Brian has been working on the notification widget and is getting close to having an architecture proposal ready. You can track the web progress on the wiki.

Jared continues to work on quite a few administration, build and support tasks. We have also held some design discussions to brainstorm the email/sms notification features.

We have also started working on a bunch of different marketing initiatives. We are starting with refining the pitch, our landing page and organizing some of the planning information on the wiki so it lines up with our plan or record. Mimi has done a series of recent blog posts that tackles the user problem we are trying to solve with Chandler.


Project Status Update

February 22nd, 2008 at 4:01 pm (5 months ago) by Sheila Mooney under Chandler Project

Here is this week’s project status.

We released Chandler 0.7.4.1 earlier this week. You can find more details in the blog post below. Grant continues to make his way through our desktop work queue and in keeping with our monthly releases, we expect another release out in early March. Philip is starting to work on some re-architecture tasks, specifically investigating a storage replacement for the repository.

On the web side we have made some good progress working out the design for the first several web widgets we are going to implement. Katie, Sheila and Mimi have been working with the developers to define the first set of development tasks and distribute those. We have much better visibility into the web work queue in general. Jeffrey is working on the quick entry widget while Travis finishes up the port to Dojo 1.0. We should be ready to start testing the ported Web UI soon. Brian has started looking into the notification widget. You can read more about the web work queue and track the widgets design progress on the Web Work Queue page.

Randy has been working on some re-factoring to deal with the sharing security issue. This has been discussed extensively on the list. Grant has also made some supporting fixes on the desktop side as well. We should be ready to test out these changes next week.

We still continue to wrap up a few administrative and IT tasks.


Chandler Project Status Upate

February 15th, 2008 at 2:08 pm (5 months, 1 week ago) by Sheila Mooney under Chandler Project

It’s been a couple of weeks since our last update.

Some developments on the release front…

  • Last week we released Chandler 0.7.4.
  • There was also a Chandler Server release, 0.12.0.
  • We are close to rolling out a Chandler 0.7.4.1 which addresses a bug that complicated upgrades from version 0.7.3.

We have started making progress on our short term strategy which Katie Parlante outlined in a blog post last week.

We have outlined a prioritized list of desktop bug fixes that we feel address some of the pain points for our users. Grant has started working on many of these and you can track our progress on the wiki. We have already started removing some components of the UI that were confusing users. Our Thunderbird plugin, although still in the work queue, has been prioritized down a bit so that Brian Kirsch is available to help us on the web side for the short term. Phillip Eby is wrapping up his work on setuptools and should have the 0.6 release out today.

On the web side we have been spending quite a bit of time working out the web work queue and floating various proposals and ideas on the list. Mimi recently sent out a list of critical bugs to fix in the Web UI that address some of the barriers for people getting started. We have also been working out the detailed use cases and designs for some of our web widgets. We are currently in the process of prioritizing the work queue and dividing up the work between Travis, Jeffrey and Brian. Travis has already implemented a very early stage quick entry widget that people can play with. He is spending most of his time in the next few weeks porting our current web UI to Dojo 1.0. Randy has been circulating a proposal on the list to tackle a security hole when users share read only items. We seem to be getting close to a final solution.

We are in the process of updating the wiki so that it captures our plan of record and all the work queues and prioritizations.

Lastly, we are still taking care of a number of lingering logistical and administrative issues pertaining to the reorganization.


OSAF’s Next Steps

February 6th, 2008 at 11:17 pm (5 months, 2 weeks ago) by Katie Capps Parlante under Chandler Desktop Development, Chandler Project, Chandler Server Development, OSAF

Last week the staff got together in person and took a critical look at where the project is now and what we want to achieve in the next year.

We asked ourselves a series of questions, including: “We have some successful, enthusiastic users who rely on Chandler daily: how are they using it? What are their success stories? How can we build on that and grow the user base?” and “Why do we only have 100s of unique desktop users syncing to the Hub daily when many 1000s of users have downloaded the desktop?”

Looking at users who are successful and potential users who run into difficulties, we had this insight: Chandler succeeds at meeting the needs of users who are tracking ‘knowledge work’. What do we mean by this? We’ve observed people tracking ideas and questions for tasks they need to do — the kind of things people otherwise might jot down in notebooks, on scraps of paper or in text files. They selectively add important email messages to Chandler (the ones they might have flagged if they were only using their email client). They share collections of these items with other people as they develop an idea, using Chandler to record the ‘knowledge’ about a shared project. Quick item entry, stamping items onto the calendar or a task list, and items in multiple collections are all signature features that help users evolve their ideas into tasks and projects. While the design includes tasks and a hard calendar landscape, Chandler is not oriented around calendaring per se or around a complicated task and project landscape with many dependencies. We don’t have enterprise scheduling features, for example, or task and project dependencies. Instead of adding more features for calendaring and task/project management over the next year, we’d like to build on Chandler’s more unique strengths, excelling at meeting the needs people who currently find Chandler compelling.

Of course, many users who do have similar needs to the successful users run into barriers when trying to use Chandler. The application is too slow for their hardware, they are overwhelmed by non essential functionality visible in the application, they don’t know how to get started, they run into a roadblock when creating an account, etc. We want to remove these barriers.

The flip side of this is that some people who have been drawn to the project are really not target users. Chandler doesn’t meet their needs because Chandler is not designed for them. We just don’t have the resources to make all of these people happy — we really do have to focus. More on this in the “what we are not doing” section below.

Another idea that came up in our discussions: we want Chandler to be more viral. We want Chandler to be easy to explain to others. We want Chandler to be found in contexts where people are already spending time. We want Chandler to be of great use to the individual using Chandler on their own, and to be even more useful as that user pulls in other people to collaborate. We want happy users be successful evangelists for Chandler.

What we are doing next

We made some important high level decisions about what we’re going to be focusing on in the next year, and in particular for the next 3-4 months. It was most concrete for us when we discussed exactly what each person would be working on (in particular what each developer would be working on), so I’ll use that to frame our strategy.

Grant Baillie: Incremental progress on the desktop. We decided that we can’t stop and take time out to rewrite the desktop or build a complete web based home for our target users, so that means continuing to maintain the current desktop code base. Grant will focus on bugs and small feature changes that remove barriers for users who otherwise would value Chandler’s feature set. We are not far from a 1.0 version of the desktop. One of the first projects that Grant is working on is a pass at simplifying the UI by removing rarely used email functionality — reducing the number of new concepts that users need to get started.

Travis Vachon and Jeffrey Harris: Web widgets. We’re turning our focus on the web away from replicating the desktop functionality, and toward making Chandler more viral and better at facilitating idea gathering and collaboration for our target users. Travis and Jeffrey are going to build web widgets that might be deployed in different contexts — iGoogle, Facebook, on an iPhone, etc. Widgets will give read/write access to a particular item (instead of a whole collection), allow users to search for a particular item, allow quick entry of items, etc. We’ve started the design work on the chandler-dev list. One requirement for the web strategy is that these widgets should be compelling to a new user who does not use the desktop, in addition to providing features that complement the desktop. Eventually, the widgets can be building blocks for developing out that web based home for our target users.

Brian Kirsch: Thunderbird plugin. Brian has already blogged about this idea; we’ve decided to proceed with it. We think it will be a great way to introduce Chandler ideas to a new audience.

Jared Rhine: Email related features on the Hub. Jared will explore adding email notifications/reports from the service, and email as a way of entering data into the service. Again, these features are a way of making the Hub more viral — data access from other contexts where people spend their time. This work is in addition to Jared’s many other responsibilities (managing the Hub service, build and release management, etc.).

Randy Letness: Chandler Server improvements and support for web widgets. Randy will continue with security work that has long been planned, as well as server support necessary for the new web widgets.

Phillip Eby: Desktop rearchitecture. We will continue to make a modest investment in the rearchitecture project that we embarked upon last year, as the rearchitecture is our path to really solving desktop performance problems. The rearchitecture will also provide a much better platform for other developers to contribute to the project.

Mimi Yin: Product design and strategy. Web strategy and web widget design, Thunderbird plugin design, desktop prioritization, project website improvements, etc.

Sheila Mooney: Evangelism strategy. Develop a pitch and a demo, meet with stakeholders, etc. One of the barriers for potential users and partners is really a marketing barrier — helping people understand what Chandler is intended for.

My job is to manage the project overall and give the project its best shot at thriving beyond the end of the year.

What we are not doing

We are not trying to be an open source Exchange/Outlook competitor. While this would be a worthy goal, it is not our passion and we don’t really have the right product or organization to pull this off. It has been a misperception in the press that this has ever been our goal — probably because so many people want an open source competitor to Exchange/Outlook. We have not designed Chandler for enterprise calendaring. Actually, the Microsoft product with the most overlap with our design objectives is probably OneNote.

Being a CalDAV reference implementation is not a priority. We believe that calendaring standards are important and hope that they are adopted in the world, and much of OSAF’s energy in previous years was directed at making that a reality. With our current need to focus, however, our strategic objective wrt calendaring standards is to be able to interoperate with popular clients (e.g. iCal and Lightning). For this reason and because we are not trying to do enterprise calendaring, we will not be implementing CalDAV scheduling.

We are not trying to be a GTD specific tool. Yes, we paid a lot of attention to GTD as we were designing Chandler and we were inspired by ideas from GTD. We also looked at how people who have never heard of GTD really use their inbox to manage their world, and taken inspiration from that as well. When getting into the specifics of Chandler’s design, we focused on user scenarios and workflows that would make our target users successful — not necessarily designing to GTD processes. We’ve recently taken a critical look at how well Chandler meets the needs of someone following the GTD process strictly. In doing so, we realized that we didn’t want to prioritize staff time to work on changes that would make Chandler a GTD specific tool, and that Chandler’s philosophy is different enough from GTD that it would be misleading to call Chandler a GTD tool. We’ll need to change our messaging — our landing page, blog and other places that refer to GTD. That said, we recognize that some developers are interested in features that would help people use Chandler for a GTD process, and we encourage anyone who wants to contribute code for such features.

We are not going to add full email functionality to Chandler desktop, or contacts (at least not in the next year, not on OSAF staff time). Yes, we know that many people want these features, and we’d love to design them and implement them if we had the resources, but we don’t have the resources in the next year. Again, we’d gladly accept code contributions that implemented these features, or additional funding to implement them. We are willing to spend time to help make people successful contributing code for these features (or other features that complement the current product).


Chandler Project Status Update

January 23rd, 2008 at 3:39 pm (6 months ago) by Sheila Mooney under Chandler Project

With so many changes around the restructuring we thought it would be helpful to start blogging about our project status on a regular basis so people get a sense of the ongoing activities.

While we work the strategic next steps, our new team will focus on getting a release out for both the desktop and server.

  • Chandler Desktop 0.7.4 will be released in the next week or so. Some highlights…

    • We have addressed a number of sharing and recurrence bugs found through usage.
    • We have added a new German localization.
    • The recorded scripts branch was integrated, which is more of a development item.
  • Cosmo Server 0.12 will also be released this week. We fixed a few bugs found during hub usage and addressed a number of security bugs.

A more detailed summary will be sent out with each release announcement.

Over the next several weeks, we will be spending most of our time working out the details of our long term roadmap and goals. Our smaller team will be coming together for an off-site at the end of January where we will engage in a number of sessions around planning, strategy and marketing. We have been using a shared collection in Chandler to collaborate on a number of different projects and have published a public Chandler Project collection so others can track our progress.

We continue to work closely with our current users and are in the process of scheduling a number of detailed user interviews which will help us refine our marketing message and provide us with more detailed information about usability patterns. We are currently actively working on addressing a number of security and usability issues. We are also looking for ways to reach out to more users and are investigating projects such as building a Thunderbird plug-in which was posted on the blog and the design list recently.

Finally, as with any reorg there is a period of knowledge transfer and redistributing responsibilities such as builds, systems support and testing. We are also taking care of a number of administrative type tasks and logistics such as consolidating some of our mailing lists, meetings and revisiting a number of processes to make more effective use of the smaller team. We now have short daily scrum-style checkins.


OSAF 2.0 Team

January 18th, 2008 at 5:22 pm (6 months, 1 week ago) by Katie Capps Parlante under Chandler Project, Community, OSAF

Several folks have asked who is staying on for the next phase — who is remaining on the staff.

Mimi Yin continues on as our Product Designer, Sheila Mooney in Program and Product Management, and Jared Rhine running the Hub Service. Jared will add more IT responsibilities, as well as build and release responsibilities to his plate. Mimi, Jared and Sheila will also be helping me with a wide variety of tasks for the organization, as one might expect on a small team.

Grant Baillie, Jeffrey Harris, Brian Kirsch, Randy Letness and Travis Vachon are all developers on the new staff. Phillip Eby continues to have a contracting relationship with OSAF, and is actively participating in strategy discussions with the team. Grant, Jeffrey and Brian had recently been working on the desktop team, Randy and Travis on the server team. Travis was an intern on the desktop team a few summers back, and Brian worked on the server team a few years ago. Going forward, developers will move around and tackle code on either code base depending on what is needed.

For the time being we’ll have a flat organization, and think of ourselves as one team. (Previously we were organized in server, desktop, qa, product, build/release and management teams). We’ve ended all of our older recurring meetings, and now have one daily sync up with the 10 people noted above. We’re currently doing this on the phone while we get our footing, but may eventually transition to IRC.

You should start seeing more posts on this blog about strategy and overall direction. We’re also starting to getting back into the groove of working on the lists.

I’d also like to emphasize that Chandler Project is bigger than these 10 staff members. Several former staff members intend to remain involved in the project. Andi Vajda will continue to maintain PyLucene and PyICU. Heikki Toivonen and Philippe Bossut will continue with Finnish and French translations. Heikki will continue to maintain M2Crypto. I continue to appreciate the counsel of Phillipe and Ted Leung, and am looking to find ways for them to be involved in an advisory capacity. Others have mentioned wanting to remain involved as well — I’m sure new roles will unfold as the next phase shakes out. Chandler Project also includes contributors like Andre Mueninghoff and Davor Cubranic, who helped immensely in getting out our Preview release. We also really appreciate all the users who speak up on the chandler-users list. We look forward to the project growing, even with a smaller paid staff.