Later sort improved

July 31st, 2008 at 4:35 pm (3 months, 3 weeks ago) by Jeffrey Harris under Chandler Desktop Development, Chandler Product News, Chandler Project, How I Use Chandler, Product Design

I’m one of those people who uses their email inbox as a task list. I keep emails around forever if I think there’s something I need to do associated with that email. I file messages I think I might refer to one day out of my inbox. Unfortunately, this approach sometimes means I have a lot of email threads all clamoring for my attention. It can be overwhelming.

One of Chandler’s appeals for me is the ability to manage lots of different ideas, but only focus on a few at a time. The way focus works in Chandler is that items are “triaged” to NOW, LATER, or DONE.

DONE is just like filing an email. NOW is like leaving the email in my inbox. The big enhancement, for me, is LATER.

With the LATER section, you can mark a message as important to pay attention to, but not right now. This risks becoming a gargantuan pit of “someday, maybe” items, though, so you can also assign an alarm, and that item will pop back to NOW in the future.

Now I can choose just a few things to keep in my NOW section, and collapse the LATER and DONE sections so they don’t distract me.

One big problem with the LATER section, until recently, was that it was sorted pretty arbitrarily. I have dozens of LATER items. Birthdays, events months from now, reminders to do something next month, and more. What I (and most users, from what we’ve heard on our mailing lists) want is for the LATER section to sort according to when an item will become NOW again.

I’m happy to announce that in our latest release (1.0rc1), the LATER section sorts appropriately! For all you non-Chandler users reading this, that may not seem like a big deal. But it has a surprisingly big impact on my use of Chandler.

When LATER sorted arbitrarily, I spent a lot of my time going and looking at my calendar to remind myself if I had upcoming events. Really, I don’t have enough events to want a calendar view very often. Mostly, I just want to know what’s coming soon. Now the LATER section gives me that.

I used to not bother assigning alarms to events. I’m not sure why, it just felt like too much effort for not enough payoff. Being able to see a prioritized-by-date list of LATER items pushes the effort-to-payoff ratio to a point where I’m always assigning alarms to anything I don’t want to think about right now. As a result, my NOW section is much more manageable and I’m calmer about what I need to be thinking about.

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7 Responses to “Later sort improved”

  1. Edmund Humenberger Says:

    It is exactly what I was missing with Chandler. I follow Chandler from the first announcement I still think that chandler will one day take over all my todo and schedule because it works the way I think.
    The sorting of Later is an important step into that direction.

  2. Edmund Humenberger Says:

    Does someone know how I can see to witch collection an item belongs? I use collection as Tags and I want to see what tags are added to one item (like “this is an idea”)

  3. Edmund Humenberger Says:

    sorry for the last post, already saw that it got implemented (in the bottom of the item view, not the best place, not in the best form, but thank you very much)

    it would be cool if the display of the collection word would also match the colour of the
    collection.

  4. Philip Spohn Says:

    Yes this is a huge improvement. Thanks for pointing out the alarms trick.

  5. Shiven Says:

    OK. Maybe I missed soemthing. Does this sorting work on subscribed collections? I have subscribed to a google calendar and the Later section does not sort as you mention in this post!!

    Is this normal? Do I need to submit a bug report on this?

    Thanks!!
    Keep up the great work!

  6. Shiven Says:

    Alright, figured it out… MY BAD !! The Later section does get sorted properly….however it is the Done section which still does not get sorted properly…. I hope it is still on the agenda for repair?

    Thanks!

  7. Jeffrey Harris Says:

    Edmund: it’d be great to add the colors to the list of collections available, I hadn’t thought of that. It wouldn’t even be particularly hard to do. Would you be willing to file a bug for that feature request!

    Shiven: The DONE section is sorted (somewhat) deliberately. The idea is that you want the item you marked DONE most recently to appear at the top (in case you realize you actually want it to be NOW again). So we decided to make DONE not sort by date.

    In your case, though, you imported from iCalendar, so really there’s no sensible order when importing except by date. If you’d file a bug for fixing that (making DONE sort sensibly on import) I’d appreciate it.

    https://buzilla.osafoundation.org

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