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	<title>Comments on: Where we are today; OSAF after Dreaming in Code</title>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://blog.chandlerproject.org/2007/01/05/where-we-are-today-osaf-after-dreaming-in-code/comment-page-1/#comment-15316</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI All - 

I just wanted to say that I&#039;ve started reading the book, it sounds like a really interesting project. Being involved in the world of software development I can related to your problems. One of the many good things, is that not only have you an open source project, but an &quot;open source history&quot;, where people can learn from the things you&#039;ve done. That&#039;s a huge step in the right direction.  

Keep up the good work. 

Phil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI All &#8211; </p>
<p>I just wanted to say that I&#8217;ve started reading the book, it sounds like a really interesting project. Being involved in the world of software development I can related to your problems. One of the many good things, is that not only have you an open source project, but an &#8220;open source history&#8221;, where people can learn from the things you&#8217;ve done. That&#8217;s a huge step in the right direction.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work. </p>
<p>Phil.</p>
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		<title>By: nettles</title>
		<link>http://blog.chandlerproject.org/2007/01/05/where-we-are-today-osaf-after-dreaming-in-code/comment-page-1/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>nettles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiya OSAF Staff, Katie,

I just finished Scott&#039;s book last week, and have been very engrossed in your site, the OSAF/Chandler history the past week. The book does a great job of blending the historical and technical challenges of our industry with the struggle of developing new software, and I really enjoyed having someone revisit and update the various &quot;Laws&quot; of software development in a 21at century context.

All that being said, I am doing some wx/Python/Lucene development myself, and am very interested in learning from, and perhaps contributing to the effort you all have put out there. I&#039;ll definitely see you around the email list and blogs.

Keep on cranking out good stuff, and most importantly, keep the Idea alive!

--Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiya OSAF Staff, Katie,</p>
<p>I just finished Scott&#8217;s book last week, and have been very engrossed in your site, the OSAF/Chandler history the past week. The book does a great job of blending the historical and technical challenges of our industry with the struggle of developing new software, and I really enjoyed having someone revisit and update the various &#8220;Laws&#8221; of software development in a 21at century context.</p>
<p>All that being said, I am doing some wx/Python/Lucene development myself, and am very interested in learning from, and perhaps contributing to the effort you all have put out there. I&#8217;ll definitely see you around the email list and blogs.</p>
<p>Keep on cranking out good stuff, and most importantly, keep the Idea alive!</p>
<p>&#8211;Ben</p>
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		<title>By: iced98lx</title>
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		<dc:creator>iced98lx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think  everyone who has read the book (Just finished the other day) is experiancing a renewed excitement in the project. I am frustrated as C#/++/Java programmer at my lack of ability to help the project out, but am excited for the progress. I have been using .7a daily for about 2 months now (frustratingly, at times), and have been meaning to get on here and submit some bugs- just no time!  What a great project, and fear not Mitch and the team: no one has lost your vision of revolutionary software!  See you in the lists!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think  everyone who has read the book (Just finished the other day) is experiancing a renewed excitement in the project. I am frustrated as C#/++/Java programmer at my lack of ability to help the project out, but am excited for the progress. I have been using .7a daily for about 2 months now (frustratingly, at times), and have been meaning to get on here and submit some bugs- just no time!  What a great project, and fear not Mitch and the team: no one has lost your vision of revolutionary software!  See you in the lists!</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Leung</title>
		<link>http://blog.chandlerproject.org/2007/01/05/where-we-are-today-osaf-after-dreaming-in-code/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Leung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 01:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pixelmonkey, 

You can subscribe to our mailing lists &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.osafoundation.org/mailing_lists.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, and you can download Chandler from the Chandler &lt;a href=&quot;http://chandler.osafoundation.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;landing page&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.

Hope to see you on the lists!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pixelmonkey, </p>
<p>You can subscribe to our mailing lists <a href="http://www.osafoundation.org/mailing_lists.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a>, and you can download Chandler from the Chandler <a href="http://chandler.osafoundation.org" rel="nofollow">&#8220;landing page&#8221;</a>.</p>
<p>Hope to see you on the lists!</p>
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		<title>By: pixelmonkey</title>
		<link>http://blog.chandlerproject.org/2007/01/05/where-we-are-today-osaf-after-dreaming-in-code/comment-page-1/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>pixelmonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still reading Dreaming in Code.  I remember Chandler back from the original /. post, but have almost forgotten about you guys until this book came out.

In the past three years, I&#039;ve been a big user of GNOME Evolution, a PIM made mainly for Linux.  Evolution is mainly a copycat of Outlook, which is what has made me grow more and more frustrated with it.  But Evolution&#039;s mail composer/mail viewing component is really top notch, and their search features in 2.7 were really good (with VFolders/Search Folders and advanced searching capabilities).

I envision the ideal mailer being driven by tagging, labeling and searching, as well as having better abstractions for things like mailing lists and automated system messages.  For example, wouldn&#039;t it be cool if mailing lists were downloaded and organized differently from your day-to-day e-mail?  Wouldn&#039;t it be cool if every e-mail could be easily tagged the way I tag my bookmarks on del.icio.us?  Wouldn&#039;t it be great if when I get a system message telling me about a username/password for a site I registered for, the text is parsed out and I&#039;m asked if I&#039;d like to add a new entry to my password keyring?  Also better handling for things like attachments, vcards, ics calendars, and on and on.  E-mail could just be such a richer experience with a little thought!

I fear Evolution will never get around to these innovations, mainly due to a bad initial choice of writing the mailer in C using GObject and tying it together using Bonobo.  With Python and wxWidgets, I think we&#039;ll have a much easier time.

So, my real question: has any work begun on the Chandler mailer?  And regardless of the answer, where can I sign up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still reading Dreaming in Code.  I remember Chandler back from the original /. post, but have almost forgotten about you guys until this book came out.</p>
<p>In the past three years, I&#8217;ve been a big user of GNOME Evolution, a PIM made mainly for Linux.  Evolution is mainly a copycat of Outlook, which is what has made me grow more and more frustrated with it.  But Evolution&#8217;s mail composer/mail viewing component is really top notch, and their search features in 2.7 were really good (with VFolders/Search Folders and advanced searching capabilities).</p>
<p>I envision the ideal mailer being driven by tagging, labeling and searching, as well as having better abstractions for things like mailing lists and automated system messages.  For example, wouldn&#8217;t it be cool if mailing lists were downloaded and organized differently from your day-to-day e-mail?  Wouldn&#8217;t it be cool if every e-mail could be easily tagged the way I tag my bookmarks on del.icio.us?  Wouldn&#8217;t it be great if when I get a system message telling me about a username/password for a site I registered for, the text is parsed out and I&#8217;m asked if I&#8217;d like to add a new entry to my password keyring?  Also better handling for things like attachments, vcards, ics calendars, and on and on.  E-mail could just be such a richer experience with a little thought!</p>
<p>I fear Evolution will never get around to these innovations, mainly due to a bad initial choice of writing the mailer in C using GObject and tying it together using Bonobo.  With Python and wxWidgets, I think we&#8217;ll have a much easier time.</p>
<p>So, my real question: has any work begun on the Chandler mailer?  And regardless of the answer, where can I sign up?</p>
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		<title>By: cowmix</title>
		<link>http://blog.chandlerproject.org/2007/01/05/where-we-are-today-osaf-after-dreaming-in-code/comment-page-1/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>cowmix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a fan of OSAF, Mitch Kapor, Lotus Agenda, Python WxWindows... and the IDEA of Chandler.. I am definitely cheering you guys on..

I can&#039;t wait for this next release.. hopefully it will be useful for day to day activity.. 

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a fan of OSAF, Mitch Kapor, Lotus Agenda, Python WxWindows&#8230; and the IDEA of Chandler.. I am definitely cheering you guys on..</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait for this next release.. hopefully it will be useful for day to day activity.. </p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Chao Lam</title>
		<link>http://blog.chandlerproject.org/2007/01/05/where-we-are-today-osaf-after-dreaming-in-code/comment-page-1/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Chao Lam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 06:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post and nice update, Katie! Eager to try out the Preview Release and really dig in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and nice update, Katie! Eager to try out the Preview Release and really dig in.</p>
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